Sunday, August 03, 2008

only the shadow knows


29 comments:

Scott W said...

I haven't seen Pilobolus in forever! And I had that 45 by the Lovin' Spoonful when I was a kid. Thanks.

PATRICK said...

THE 12 STEPS DOWN TO HELL

12 Step recovery programs are a slow slide into the jaws of Satan. I was involved with the evil “satanic cult” [AA] for over 30 years but was SAVED through the power of JESUS CHRIST.

He directed me to a therapist who was into “real” recovery, not the mind destroying, soul destroying, cult, which is AA. I have met two Steppers recently & I imagine they are completely devoid of any emotion or insight.

I feel pain because both these men are decent human beings but AA has destroyed their BRAIN STRUCTURE & they have no idea how to relate apart from expounding AA propaganda.

I imagine Hell to be a continuous flow of AA meetings without any light at the end of the tunnel because one is never REDEEMED. I beg you, to get out (AA) before it is too late.

How does one recover when one is handing one’s power over to AA. The 12 Steps were written out of Wilson’s head, he certainly didn’t get his guidance from the Bible. I imagine he was an agent of Satan & he & Smith’s “cult religion” has filled millions of Steppers with their anti - Christ propaganda.

Step Three of AA is "Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood him." While many in the Oxford Group placed their faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour, there was much leeway given. Shoemaker, a leader of the Oxford Group, says, "The true meaning of faith is self-surrender to God." He further explains:

Surrender to whatever you know about Him, or believe must be the truth about Him. Surrender to Him, if necessary, in total ignorance of Him. Far more important that you touch Him than that you understand Him at first. Put yourself in His hands. Whatever He is, as William James said, He is more ideal than we are. Make the leap. Give yourself to Him.

Aside from capitalizing the "H," which Christians do to refer to the God of the Bible, "Him" could refer to any god of one’s own making [BEDPAN].

Can you see what is happening to you? Ask Jesus to take control of your life, read the Bible & instead of 12 Step groups, go to Church. Burn your Big Book or use it as toilet paper.

Can you see the difference: With The 12 Steps, you never recover but with John 3:16 you are guaranteed Eternal Salvation. The “ball is in your court"?

I, PATRICK, AM THE HOLY ONE OF GOD.

PATRICK said...

HOW IT SUCKS:

Rarly have we seen a person fail who thoroughly followed us home. Those who are not BRAINWASHED are people who cannot or will not completely give themselves to this garbage, usually men and women who are constitutionally capable of thinking for themselves.

There are such fortunates. They are not at fault; they seem to have been born premature. They are naturally capable of building and developing muscles, which demands rigorous training. Their chances are 6/4 on.

There are those, too, who are gravediggers and undertakers, but many of them do become ZOMBIES if they have the capacity to be dishonest.

Our stories disclose in a twisted way, who we like, what happened, and who we hate now. If you have decided you want a cup of tea and are willing to go to any lengths to become emotionally shutdown, SHAPE SHIFTING REPTILES - then you are ready to take certain steps.

At some of these we balked, we thought we could find someone to 13th Step. And we realised, we could. With all the madness at our command, we beg of you to become Bill Wilson Clones - from the very start.

Some of us have tried to hold on to our BIG BOOKS and the result was nil until we let go of our SPONSORS.

Remember that we deal with alcohol, frothy, bubbly, and powerful! Without help it is too much for us. But there is one who has all power that one is the BARMAN. May you find Him now!

Half measures availed us nothing. We stood at the bar. We asked the BARMAN for a couple of stiff wodka's.

Here are the steps we took, which are suggested as a program to INSANITY:
1.We admitted we were powerless over Coca - Cola, and decided to drink Pepsi, instead.
2.Came to believe that Cold Power was a detergent.
3.Made a decision to turn our heads when we saw an attractive blonde.
4.Did a body search of the new members.
5.Admitted to our DOG, to elves, and to another super being the exact nature of our songs.
6.Were entirely ready to have SUPERMAN remove the effects of kryptonite.
7.Humbly asked CLARK KENT to remove our brains.
8.Made a list of all persons who owed us money, and became willing to charge them interest.
9.Made direct hits wherever possible, except when someone moved the target.
10.Continued to talk crap and when we were wrong, promptly talked more crap.
11.Sought through our mail and computer to improve our conscious contact with BATMAN, as we understood him, praying only for knowledge of ROBIN and the return of SPIDERMAN.
12.Having had a stroke as the result of these steps, we tried to carry out the garbage, and fell flat on our backs.

Many of us exclaimed, "What an order! I can't go through with it." Do not be discouraged. No one among us has been able to maintain their homes and 13th Step the newcomers, at the same time.

We are not psychopaths. The point is, that we are willing to become psychotic. The principles we have set down are guides to psychosis. We claim that Bill Wilson was a psychopath.

Our description of the landscape, the chapter to the Gnostic, and our family photos before and after make clear three pertinent ideas:
(a) That we were ugly and could not manage our own appearance.
(b) That probably no photographer could have improved our looks.
(c) That a PLASTIC SURGEON could and would if he were sought.

I, PATRICK, AM THE CHRIST'S LIVING FOUNDATION STONE OF THE CHURCH.

PATRICK said...

BILL WILSON'S PACT WITH SATAN:

From Bill's Story:
Co - founder of AA, Bill Wilson's story has been in every edition of the book Alcoholics Anonymous.

With ministers, and the world's religions, I parted right there. When they talked of a God personal to me, who was love, superhuman strength and direction, I became irritated and my mind snapped shut against such a theory.

To Christ I conceded the certainty of a great man, not too closely followed by those who claimed Him. His moral teaching -- most excellent. For myself, I had adopted those parts which seemed convenient and not too difficult; the rest I disregarded.

My friend suggested what then seemed a novel idea. He said, "Why don't you choose your own conception of God?"

That statement hit me hard. It melted the icy intellectual mountain in whose shadow I had lived and shivered many years. I stood in the sunlight at last.

It was only a matter of being willing to believe in a Power greater than myself. Nothing more was required of me to make my beginning. I saw that growth could start from that point. Upon a foundation of complete willingness I might build what I saw in my friend. Would I have it? Of course I would!

Thus was I convinced that God is concerned with us humans when we want Him enough. At long last I saw, I felt, I believed. Scales of pride and prejudice fell from my eyes. A new world came into view.

The real significance of my experience in the Cathedral burst upon me. For a brief moment, I had needed and wanted God. There had been a humble willingness to have Him with me -- and He came. But soon the sense of His presence had been blotted out by worldly clamors, mostly those within myself. And so it had been ever since. How blind I had been.

At the hospital I was separated from alcohol for the last time. Treatment seemed wise, for I showed signs of delirium tremens.

There I humbly offered myself to God, as I then I understood Him, to do with me as He would. I placed myself unreservedly under His care and direction. I admitted for the first time that of myself I was nothing; that without Him I was lost. I ruthlessly faced my sins and became willing to have my new-found Friend take them away, root and branch. I have not had a drink since. Simple, but not easy; a price had to be paid. It meant destruction of self-centeredness. I must turn in all things to the Father of Light who presides over us all.

These were revolutionary and drastic proposals, but the moment I fully accepted them, the effect was electric. There was a sense of victory, followed by such a peace and serenity as I had never know. There was utter confidence. I felt lifted up, as though the great clean wind of a mountain top blew through and through. God comes to most men gradually, but His impact on me was sudden
and profound.

For a moment I was alarmed, and called my friend, the doctor, to ask if I were still sane. He listened in wonder as I talked.

Finally he shook his head saying, "Something has happened to you I don't understand. But you had better hang on to it. Anything is better than the way you were." The good doctor now sees many men who have such experiences. He knows that they are real.

While I lay in the hospital the thought came that there were thousands of hopeless alcoholics who might be glad to have what had been so freely given me. Perhaps I could help some of them. They in turn might work with others.

There is no mention of JESUS CHRIST in the BIG BOOK or the 12 STEPS. Wilson was used by SATAN to delude millions of people.

John 3:16 (chapter 3, verse 16 of the Gospel of John) is one of the most widely quoted verses from the Christian Bible. It has been called the "Bible in a nutshell" because it is considered a summary of some of the most central doctrines of traditional Christianity:

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have eternal life.

A typical interpretation of the verse might go as follows:
· For God so loved the world... - God is a God of love and this love motivates his action in the rest of the verse
· ...that he gave... - there was God giving something, his son as a sacrifice
· ...his only begotten[1] Son... - the human Jesus of Nazareth is also the Son of God, and also the Second Person of the Trinity
· ...that whosoever... - that salvation is open to all who will believe
· ...believeth... - being saved is based on belief or faith, rather than based on human works.
· ...in Him... - the belief being in Jesus, the Saviour
· ...should not perish... - implies the fate of those who do not believe, that is the doctrine of hell
· ...but have everlasting life. - shows the reward of those who believe, that is the doctrine of heaven.

I, MICKY, AM A GIFT TO ALL PEOPLE.

PATRICK said...

SOUND OF SOBRIETY:
Hello darkness, my old friend,
Ive come to talk crap again,
An AA meeting softly creeping,
Left its seeds while I was sleeping,
And the 12 Steps that were planted in my brain
Still remains
Within the sound of sobriety.

In restless meetings I walked alone
Bill Wilson Clones, made of stone
Neath the halo of an OLD TIMER,
I turned my collar to the 1st and 3rd Step
When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of
A SPIRITUAL AWAKENING
That split the night
And touched the sound of sobriety.

And in the naked light I saw
Ten thousand STEPPERS, maybe more.
STEPPERS reading the BIG BOOK,
STEPPERS hearing without listening,
STEPPERS writing their 4th STEP
And no one dared
Disturb the sound of sobriety.

Zombies said I, you do not know
Sobriety like a cancer grows.
Hear my words that I might BRAINWASH you,
Take my arms that I might 13th Step you.
But my words like the higher power fell,
And echoed
In the halls of sobriety

And the STEPPERS ranted and raved
To the AA god they made.
And the sign flashed out its warning,
In the words that it was forming.
And the sign said, KEEP COMING BACK
IT WORKS IF YOU WORK IT
And the 12 STEP ZOMBIES.
Whispered in the sounds of sobriety.

I, PATRICK, AM THE LORD'S LIGHT & SALVATION FOR OTHER PEOPLE.

PATRICK said...

I LOVE JESUS SO MUCH

I SHOULD NEVER HAVE ANY CAUSE OR REASON TO BE ASHAMED TO LOVE JESUS.

Is not the time coming, and the day hastening, when covetous men shall be ashamed of loving the world, and voluptuous men ashamed of loving their pleasures, and ambitious men ashamed of loving their honors?

For is it not a horrid shame, that a rational creature should be such a sot as to love sin which is most loathsome, and not to love Jesus who is most lovely? to love deformity, and not beauty?

Oh shame, shame! It is a shame that sin should have such esteem, and Jesus such great contempt put upon him. But shame shall before long confound these now shameless wretches, when they shall cry out, "We are ashamed that we loved profits, and not Jesus- houses, lands, lusts, and not Jesus.

This is the confusion of our faces, and shame covers us-- that we should be so foolish, and so blind, that we had not sense, nor reason, to distinguish between sin, which is the greatest and most odious evil, and Jesus who is the greatest and most lovely good." But the time will never come, the day will never be, that a gracious soul shall be ashamed of his sincere love to Jesus Christ.


I,PATRICK, AM THE LIVING FOUNDATION STONE OF THE CHURCH.

PATRICK said...

CANCEROUS GROWTH:
I imagine AA to be a cancerous growth in our society. I'm a recovered alcoholic who has been sober for over 22 years. I've seen this "cult" virtually destroy people where they become these Bill & Bob zombies devoid of any emotion.

I imagine most of the Steppers are not dealing with their core issues and become addicted to the "droning Bill & Bob heads" who pop up and expel meaningless diatribe from their mouths.

Alcoholism is the only "disease" one doesn't recover from & one is continually confessing ones non - existent sins, which intensify the guilt and fear when one is not at a meeting (indoctrination session).

I imagine AA meetings numb and shutdown the critical thinking section of ones brain. I know a guy who has been sober for over 30 years and I imagine him to be quite mad - he doesn't even know what he's feeling most of the time apart from feeling depressed.

I imagine AA to be the road to hell and that it's anti - Christ and the Steppers sell their souls to the "cult", because they are too terrified to face their “demons” & recover their true selves. That "inner child" who is waiting to be freed is slowly pushed down until it disappears into oblivion. That "child" is God! "Unless you become like little children...." "The kingdom of God is within you!"

I hear things like; "I need to do the Steps!" "I need more meetings!" "I had cancer or my wife died or I lost my job!" "But! Guess what! I didn't pick up a drink".

They might as well say; "I fell of my chair but I didn’t pick up a drink”! "Meaningless”! Why? Because one is not expressing ones feelings! Ones process is all about feelings! How does one recover if one doesn’t feel ones pain, fear, & shame & understand that these feelings, especially if they are overwhelming; are feelings, from ones childhood.

All AA does is suppress these feelings until one ends up a semi - depressed zombie like the lunatic who has been sober for over 30 years. Can you see how dangerous this "cult" is?

A madman, Bill Wilson, started it and if you want to end up like him, keep going to meetings. The sure way to insanity is "Meetings!" "Meetings!" "Meetings!"

I,PATRICK, AM A GIFT TO ALL PEOPLE.

PATRICK said...

THE SACRED BULL:

I imagine 12 STEPPERS have sold their souls to the devil. Fortunately, I was saved through the power of Jesus Christ, but for many years had been exposed to the evil “satanic cult” (Alcoholics Anonymous) Wilson (AA) has prostituted himself & deluded millions (12 Step Groups) by worshipping the god Moloch (Ba’al the Sacred Bull). It all started with his (Wilson) “drug induced hallucination”….

Here are references to seances and other psychic events….

Bill would…”get” these things …long sentences, word by word would come through….” (22)

, he asked for guidance….The words began tumbling out with astonishing speed….(23)

So A.A.’s 12 Steps were actually received verbatim from the demonic world. It is not surprising, then, that the effect of A.A. upon many of its members is to lead them into occult involvement. In 1958, Wilson wrote to Sam Shoemaker,

Throughout A.A., we find a large amount of psychic phenomena, nearly all of it spontaneous. Alcoholic after alcoholic tells me of such experiences… run nearly the full gamut of everything we see in the books.

In addition to my original mystical experience, I’ve had a lot of such phenomenalism myself.(24)

Wilson’s “original mystical experience” was his alleged “conversion” –a classic occult encounter: “Suddenly the room lit up with a great white light. I was caught up into an ecstasy…it burst upon me that I was a free man…a wonderful feeling of Presence, and I thought to myself, ‘So this is the God of the preachers! ‘ A great peace stole over me….”(25)

This was not the “God of the preachers” but the one who transforms himself “into an angel of light” (2 Cor 1l:l4) - a light that often transforms those involved in the occult. The experience was so profound that Wilson never touched alcohol again. Satan would he more than willing to deliver a man from alcoholism in this life if thereby he could ensnare him for eternity and inspire him to lead millions to the same destruction!

Wilson joined the Oxford Group and regularly attended its meetings at Calvary Church (NY), pastored by Episcopalian Sam Shoemaker. Shoemaker urged his hearers to “accept God however they might conceive of him….”(26) Here was the origin of Step 3’s “God as we understood him.”

God does not respond to those who call upon false gods. Jesus said, “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent” (Jn 17:3). God’s judgment comes upon them “that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ (2 Thes 1:8).

I will set my face against that man & his family & will cut off from their people both him & all who follow him in prostituting themselves to Molech. I will set my face against the person who turns to mediums & spiritists to prostitute himself by following them, & I will cut him off from his people. (Leviticus 20: 5, 6)

Moloch the God Ba’al, the Sacred Bull, was widely worshipped in the ancient Near East and wherever Carthaginian culture extended. Baal Moloch was conceived under the form of a calf or an ox or depicted as a man with the head of a bull.

Hadad, Baal or simply the King identified the god within his cult. The name Moloch is not the name he was known by among his worshippers, but a Hebrew Moloch (in the Septuagint Greek translation of the Old Testament), or Molech (Hebrew), is no different than the word Melech or king, transformed by interposing the vowels of bosheth or ’shameful thing’. translation. The written form. He is sometimes also called Milcom in the Old Testament.


I, MICKY, AM ONE OF GOD'S MARVELOUS DEEDS THAT MAKES IT KNOWN TO ALL THE NATIONS.

PATRICK said...

12STEP HORROR STORIES:
True Tales of Misery, Betrayal, and Abuse in AA, NA and 12-Step Treatment, edited by Rebecca Fransway

Reviewed by Jackie J.

The Introduction, Foreword, and Preface contain a great deal of anti-AA editorial commentary. The basic points are that AA is bad for some (or most) people and that people who contradict the belief-systems of AAers are demonized. Pro-AA individuals who are easily offended might want to skip the introductory material. The horror stories themselves are fascinating reads and only a few had an entirely negative view of AA. Even avid 12-steppers should find something of value and little to resent in most of these stories.

Some stories are very detailed, chapter-length tales of 13-stepping and compulsory AA-attendance. Other stories are no more than a few paragraphs long. Each writer clearly has an independent and unique perspective on their AA experiences. Most names were changed to protect the innocent, although some writers insisted that their names be proudly displayed.

Each story-teller drew a unique conclusion from their experience. The differing opinions treated the subject with a basic fairness that was much more open-minded and even-handed than the title suggests. Every writer was clear that they were writing solely about their own experience and most insisted that they did not intend that the reader jump to conclusions about the organization as a whole.

Some contributers were primarily interested in reforming AA and fixing AA's internal problems by opening a healthy dialog within meetings, making newcomers aware of stalkers within the organization, and limiting the authority of old-timers (who may be more interested in protecting their friends and/or their egos than supporting the organization). They were motivated by a desire to create a better environment for those seeking recovery.

Some people protested the systematic sexism or racism they encountered in the organization. One mentioned the lack of tolerance for non-Judeo-Christian religious preferences. Male and female alcoholics are clearly held to different standards of behavior in many AA groups.

Others told of the shock they experienced when they were admitted into treatment centers and realized that they were in an abusive (or religious) environment that they were unprepared to cope with. They related how they and their families were pressured into accepting a pro-forma explanation of their troubles. Most of the writers' scorn was reserved for treatment centers and the counselors (most often characterized as deranged) who ran them.

Some stories dealt with suicides and other destructive behaviors that AA members were driven to when they were denied the support of the group for some actual or philosophical conflict with the organization. Several instances had to do with people being encouraged to quit taking prescribed medications for mental illnesses in order to become authentically "sober" according to the standards of their group.

Very few readers insisted that they would not refer a friend to AA after their experiences, although most of them were emphatic that they themselves would not return to "those rooms" again. Several had discovered alternate methods of treatment, others felt that they had taken charge of their lives and recovery sufficiently to no longer need the support of a group to maintain their sobriety.

The differing points of view and perspectives of the contributors gives lie to the myth that all alcoholics are alike.

These story-tellers all tell another story - the story of their resilience and commitment to sobriety regardless of the obstacles. Interestingly enough, most of them arrived at a desire to act to change their circumstances and found the courage to speak out about the injustices they suffered in AA after four or five years of sobriety.
www.unhooked.com/booktalk/12_step_horror_stories.htm

I, PATRICK, AM THE LORD'S LIGHT & SALVATION FOR OTHER PEOPLE.

PATRICK said...

ANOTHER WAKE UP CALL FOR STEPPERS PROFESSING CHRIST:

This is interesting, especially for those Christians who are attending AA.

2John 7-11
7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things, which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
9 Whosoever abides not in the doctrine of Christ hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

AA denies Christ & the STEPPERS who claim to be Christian are participating in it.... AA too is participating in the doctrine of the anti -Christ.


I, PATRICK, AM ONE OF GOD’S MARVELOUS DEEDS THAT MAKES IT KNOWN TO ALL THE NATIONS.

PATRICK said...

AA AND RAPE
www.morerevealed.com/library/rfhorror/rfhorror2.jsp
www.peele.net/lib/twelve.html
www.geocities.com/drugsandalcoholinfo/webpagesandpapers/insideaawebpagewebpage.htm
www.unhooked.com/booktalk/12_step_horror_stories.htm
www.morerevealed.com/library/rfhorror/rfhorrorintro.jsp
http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/book/lookupid?key=olbp38901

"Thirteenth-stepping" is a euphemistic term used among members of Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) to refer to people (particularly men) who target new, more vulnerable members (typically women) for dates or sex.

Previous research suggests that women frequently experience sexual harassment in AA meetings and even in chemical dependency treatment settings. The objective of this survey study is to describe the frequency of various 13th-stepping experiences in a sample of women involved in AA., Fifty-five women, aged 17-72 years, completed an anonymous survey to describe their experiences with 13th-stepping by men in AA.

Results showed that at least 50% of the participants had at least occasionally experienced seven of the thirteen 13th-stepping behaviors listed in the survey.

Also, compared to women who had never attended a female-only AA group, women who had attended such groups reported more 13th-stepping experiences from their attendance at coed groups.

Two of the study participants volunteered that men they met in AA had raped them., It is important that chemical dependency treatment providers be aware of 13th-stepping in AA, particularly when treating women. Especially vulnerable women, such as those with histories of sexual abuse.

When women's groups are unavailable, women should be adequately prepared to protect themselves from 13th-stepping.

I, PATRICK, AM THE HOLY ONE OF GOD.

PATRICK said...

TWELVE STEPS AWAY FROM CHRIST:
Mr. Bill Wilson, founder of Alcoholics Anonymous (A.A.) and creator of the twelve step program. Mr. Wilson was heavily influenced by demons. Chapter sixteen (p. 275f) of 'Pass It On' The Story of Bill Wilson and how the A.A.

message reached the world records Mr. Wilson's use of the ouija board, participation in seances, psychic events, "spook sessions", table levitation, and how he would receive "messages" from "discarnate" spirits.

Bill Wilson was clearly in contact with demons, and this is the man who created the deceptive twelve step program. Make a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him. (step #11. Emphasis added.)

The last part of this statement ("as we understood Him") is enough to damn your soul! God says, Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding. (Proverbs 3:5).

This is the exact opposite of "God as we understood Him." All men, according to Romans 1:18-32, are condemned before God, because they rely upon their own understanding (Romans 1:21; Ephesians 4:18, "having their understanding darkened"), and they create (in their own darkened minds) a god of their own making (Romans 1:23).

To encourage people to turn their "lives over to the care of God as we understood Him", is to encourage people to "turn their lives over to a god of their own making" (i.e. according to their own understanding).

This promotes nothing more than spiritual death (Revelation 22:15). In addition, these twelve steps are a deceitful attack against the saving work of the Lord Jesus Christ (i.e. they are against Christ, antichrist, 2 John 7; Colossians 2:8-10).

The twelve steps are (as Mr. Wilson used them) given as an answer (a way) in which one can overcome sin (with Mr. Wilson's case, the sin of drunkenness). Jesus Christ is the ONLY answer for sin. He is the only way (John 14:6).

There is only ONE "step", and that is faith in the Savior (Ephesians 2:8/Matthew 1:21/John 8:36/Romans10:13)!

The above exemplifies the "twelve steps" are what are used to "become free from addictive, compulsive" behavior (i.e. sin). In other words, the twelve steps are the savior! No doubt it is deceptive, because "Biblical principles" are interwoven throughout; but if they weren't, few (if any) would be deceived.

One good question to ask would be, "Where does Scripture talk about any 'twelve steps'"? The answer? Nowhere! These twelve steps come from Satan (via Bill Wilson), who is the master deceiver (Revelation 12:9).

Remember, Satan used Scripture to tempt Christ (Matthew 4:6), and Balaam spoke much truth (Numbers 23-24); but he was a false prophet (2 Peter 2:15-16/Numbers 22). In Matthew 7:13-14 Jesus warned, Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it.

Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. Jesus likewise warned in Luke 13:24, Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able.

I, PATRICK, AM THE TRUTH & BEAUTY THAT SURROUNDS THE LORD.

PATRICK said...

There is absolutely no scientific foundation to the notion that some people have an allergy to alcohol. An allergy (more properly speaking – hypersensitivity) is a well-defined medical condition where the body produces antibodies in response to an antigen.

A detailed description can be found in wikipedia.en.wikipedia.org
No scientific researcher has ever found any human who produces antibodies in response to alcohol.

I,PATRICK, AM THE LORD'S LIGHT & SALVATION FOR OTHER PEOPLE.

PATRICK said...

The Alcoholics Anonymous program has borrowed from medicine, psychiatry, and religion. It has taken from these what it wanted and combined them into the program which it considers best suited to the alcoholic mind and which will best help the alcoholic to recover.

The results have been very satisfactory. We do not try to improve on the A.A. program. Its value has been proved by the success it has had in helping thousands of alcoholics to recover.

It has everything we alcoholics need to arrest our illness. Do I try to follow the A.A. program just as it is?

Response:
Borrowed from medicine huh? Yes it borrowed the delusional rambling of Bill Wilson’s ass doctor who made a wild guess that maybe he had an allergy.

Lets see the roots of psychiatry ...the fathers of psychiatry were occultists and humanists who decided that anyone who believed in a higher power were nuts.

Yes, AA is a religion all right, it’s called PAGANISM.

Alcoholic mind? Once again nothing scientific to back up such claims...more invented crap - courtesy of the BIG BOOK.

Yes its helped thousands.... That would be about it. Why don’t you mention the millions of lives AA has destroyed?

If you follow the program just as it is, you too can become a mental midget trapped in a CULT for the rest of your life.

Don’t forget to mention the fact that he (Bill Wilson) couldn’t overcome his own habits with his own program. He smoked until the day he died...from emphysema. He was also a sex addict who cheated on his wife habitually.

I, PATRICK, AM A GIFT TO ALL PEOPLE.

PATRICK said...

CULT OF NECROPHILIA:
by Devin Sexson

Alcoholics Anonymous is a "cult of necrophilia." I am not saying here that there is some kind of bizarre sexual ritual involving dead bodies in AA meetings. What this means is that there is a fascination with death. The cult revolves around death. I remember when I went to AA I would here the common statement, something to the effect of, "I felt terrible earlier today, then I went to a meeting and now I feel just great!"


I wondered why I never felt great after a meeting. Meetings usually had no effect on me but often I found them down right creepy. Why? Because I am not a necrophiliac, I don't get off on sitting around talking about how we will die of alcoholism if we don't ingest this religious crap.


But the creepiness goes a little deeper than that. In order for the cult to function some members must die from alcoholism. Those members who "cannot or will not" resign themselves to the religio-fascist structure of the cult can only be of value to the cult if they are:
1. Constantly relapsing.
2. Dead.


Consider these examples:
All of us in A.A. know the tremendous happiness that is in our sobriety, but there are also tragedies. My sponsor, Jackie, was one of these. He brought in many of our original members, yet he himself could not make it and died of alcoholism.
-- The Big Book, 3rd Edition, page 239.


After being dry two weeks and sticking close to Jackie, all of a sudden I found I had become the sponsor of my sponsor, for he was suddenly taken drunk. I was startled to learn that he had only been off the booze for a month or so himself when he brought me the message!
-- The Big Book, 3rd Edition, page 245.


The Boston group provided us with a fresh wonder and a big heartbreak, too. Its founder could never get sober himself and he finally died of alcoholism. Paddy was just too sick to make it. Slip followed slip, but he came back each time to carry A.A.'s message, at which he was amazingly successful. Time after time the group nursed him back to life. Then came the last bender, and that was it. This very sick man left behind him a great group and a triple-A rating for valor. His first two successes, Bert C. and Jennie B., carry on to this day.
-- Alcoholics Anonymous Comes Of Age, William G. Wilson, page 96.


AA was already established in South Africa when Marty arrived, with a ready pool of interested and willing citizens. It had been started in that country by a relapsing alcoholic, "Johnny Appleseed." He was a gifted businessman and highly successful proponent of AA, but he could not stay sober. Regardless, wherever he traveled and got drunk and sobered up, he left literature about AA.
-- A Biography of Mrs. Marty Mann: The First Lady of Alcoholics Anonymous, Sally Brown and David R. Brown, page 224.


What is wrong with this picture? Why are these men sacrificing their own lives for the good of the cult? These are clear, unmistakable examples of how the cult values conversion more than sobriety, and more than the life and well-being of the individual.

I, PATRICK, AM THE HOLY ONE OF GOD

PATRICK said...

ZANE THE PSYCHOPATH

ZANE JABBERS
THURSDAY NIGHT, JULY 31, 2008

Zane-nawwaa said…
Oh Dear. The devil from down under strikes again. Micky, I am so sorry that you are such an evil, bitter, hateful, and disgusting man. You must have been blessed with the world's smallest DICK.

Hi. The blog is not working for me right now. I guess my expectations need to be pigeon holed. Expectations lead to disappointments which lead to resentments. I stop at resentments. I just have too many other problems right now to let the blog add to them. I really enjoy each and everyone of you (NOT YOU PATRICK/MICKY). I read each of you almost everyday. If I don't comment, I wasn't there for that day, but I do catch up. I will continue to read most days, leave a comment, and so forth. However, right now, I just am not going to be posting for a couple of weeks, probably around August 15.
Y'all be pretty now, ya heah.
Posted by Zane-nawwaa at 8:32 PM
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PATRICK said...
My Dear Zane,
I felt some pain when I read your comments; your process has nothing to with me, but unresolved issues from your childhood. I imagine you are TERRIFIED LITTLE BOY, who is RAGING over his fear, pain & shame.



The only way you will be REDEEMED, Zany, is to go back to the CHAMBER OF HORRORS (your childhood) & RECOVER “Little Zane,” who I imagine, you ABANDONED many years ago.


I imagine AA has turned you into a raging, psychopathic, emotionally shutdown, shape - shifting, Bill Wilson zombie.


Did your father sexually abuse you as a child, Zane?


I love you, Zane & will pray for you the next time I attend ROSARY.


Have you been drinking or taking drugs, Zane?


Do you love me, Zane?

How do you feel?

I, PATRICK, AM THE HOLY ONE OF GOD.

PATRICK said...

AA - HOUSE OF SATAN

God's Sword of Truth - The Word

Alcoholics Anonymous

By The Holy Spirit's Disciple, Raymond Laginess
"KNOW WE NOT THAT THE UNRIGHTEOUS SHALL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD?"
. . . BE NOT DECEIVED: . . . NEITHER DRUNKARDS . . .SHALL INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD".
1 CORINTHIANS 6:9-10


Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) is not of the Lord...it is not Christian, and is, in fact, against the Spirit of Christianity. One cannot be a Christian and belong to AA. AA is of the devil. Its "Twelve Rules" are evil, and (like religious laws or rules) positively saves no one.


AA was co-founded in 1935 by 2 men; Dr. Bob Smith and Bill Wilson, as a fellowship. It has religious and social rules, covering social sin with a philosophy of principles, which were brought to AA from the Oxford Group where it all began.


In China, in 1918, Frank Buchman, a Lutheran minister from Pennsylvania began holding a series of meetings called "house parties", or informal gathering of friends in an attempt to bring about a revival of what he thought to be 1st Century Christianity, therefore His group's first name - "First Century Christian Fellowship". Actually, this was the very first group of Alcoholics Anonymous, better known as the "Christian Fellowship". This group was founded by the rich for the rich and had a Cult (religious) basis, as it still does today under the title of AA.


Frank Buchman, the leader of the group was very involved in the Oxford Group (same as AA), but never claimed any ties to the internationally prestigious Oxford University (New World Order ties). Members of this group felt they had a "patriotic" duty to dedicate their lives to being the bearers of the secret of sanity and all those who oppossed their plans for "world peace" (Oxford Group's world domination) were public enemies, thus, this was considered a "moral crusade".


They began with the "five C's" (methods of help) for those who were too insane to join on their own, and once helped with the 5 C's, they could live sanely, in accordance with these procedures. They also had the "4 absolutes" - Absolute Purity, Absolute Honesty, Absolute Unselfishness and Absolute Love, their yardstick of sanity, something to judge ones actions and thoughts. The five C's: Confidence, Confession, Conviction, Conversion, and Conservation, were the "scientific" method of "changing ones life" , or making the insane sane, presented in an Oxford Group manual called "Soul Surgery."


You can see, according to their methods, that these men were doomed to becoming insane and that alcohol or drugs was a "medicine to illiminate a guilt feeling". And to this "Groups" way of thinking, there is no "born again" chance in life....they told society then and they are telling us now...."once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic"....or "once a drug addict, always a drug addict" or "once"some form or type of "habitual addiction, always an addiction".


True Christianity (knowing Jesus Christ as Saviour) was never a cure to them. What they are saying, through their program, is that the Holy Spirit could never cure them, when in actuality, the alcohol or drugs was never the cause to begin with. In plain words, the CAUSE IS SIN. They used, and still use, their organization as a crutch of Satan....or as a tool of Satan, to control the flesh and the soul.


Alcohol makes you a victim of Satan, but the ONLY CURE IS JESUS CHRIST. It is the Holy Spirit Who helps you overcome the flesh and Satan. . . .and needs NO RULES OR LAWS OR 5 C's OR 4 ABSOLUTES! The tools of the systems of men (even like man's religion) simply place you in bondage, under Satan. In Christ there are no addictions, only forgiveness. To be "free" in Christ ...that is true "freedom" from all addictions of the world. "Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage." - Gal. 5:1.


You do not have to join a group of bureaucrats in order to be "saved" from anything.....salvation comes through Jesus Christ only! You just need Jesus and His Spirit in your daily life, and if you live Christ every day, then you will overcome all things of the flesh and the world. You could still have a drink and not be an alcoholic. "All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any." - I Cor. 6:12.


Alcohol is not the sin...man is. Man can be saved, and he already has been, by Jesus Who was crucified on the tree. "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." - 2 Cor. 5:17. "For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him." - 2 Cor 5:21. If you accept this in faith, and live it daily, then you become a Christian, not an Anonymous Alcoholic. Christian is NOT a religion...it's a belief by "faith". Living Christ-like every day of your life is putting on the Spiritual Armour, the Breastplate of righteousness to wear against the battle of the flesh!


"But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, Who died for us...." - 2 Thess. 5:810

I, PATRICK, AM THE LIVING FOUNDATION STONE OF THE CHURCH.

PATRICK said...

LIAR! LIAR! LIAR!

Sobriety is Exhausting
Sunday, March 09, 2008

PAM (The Liar) said...
After much thought, I have decided to turn off the comment section of my blog.

I find Comment Moderation to be too time consuming, so it is just easier to turn them off.

I was really enjoying all the comments from Patrick aka David aka Clonnie aka Micky....because I knew it was taking him soooo long to sit there and do it....I visualized a sweating brow and furiously fast fingers. Sorry.....but I get a kick out of that kind of misery in others.

It was quite simply......amusing.

But I believe the craziness of it was pushing away some of my readers.

So until Mickys crack whore mama picks him up from the orphanage ;) .....I am turning off the comments.


PATRICK said…
MY Dear Pammy,
"You are a child of the devil and an enemy
of everything that is right!You are full of all
kinds of deceit and trickery.Will you never
stop perverting the right ways of the Lord?
(Acts 13: 10)

Have you turned into a FAT SATANIC PIG, PAMMY?

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I, PATRICK, HAVE A WICKED SENSE OF HUMOR

PATRICK said...

ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS &
THE NEW WORLD ORDER


Aleister Crowley, illuminati, Satanist, and 33 degree level Free Mason, circa 1875-1947, founded his religion, “Thelema,” at the turn of the century. Thelema being the practiced religion of its members, Crowley also created at the turn of the century “ Fraternitatis Argenteum Astrum” which translates from Greek to English, “Fraternal Order of the Silver Star”. One of the symbols used by Crowley to identify his fraternal order is the Masonic triangle within a circle with the acronyms A.A. inscribed below it.

This symbol is now known globally as the symbol of Alcoholics Anonymous. Crowley published a book in 1922 entitled Diary of a Drug Fiend. In this book Crowley presents a satanic program of recovery from drug addiction. Throughout Diary of a Drug fiend, its publication predating Alcoholics Anonymous by 17 years, there are many themes and phrases, both similar and identical that are also common in “The Big Book” of Alcoholics Anonymous. These themes include “abandoning free will”, “abandoning ones self”, “it’s beyond human power”, “god is beyond conception”, “Do what thou wilt”, “Do with me as thou wilt” etc.

The identical ideology of these doctrines is this: free will is useless therefore hand your will over to someone or something else. Anyone who has read both Alcoholics Anonymous and Diary of a Drug Fiend can easily spot the commonality in the wording, writing style and doctrine of the two books. It is also easy to see similarity in the writing style of the short lymric style poem included in the first chapter of the Big Book, “Bill’s Story”, of Alcoholics Anonymous and the many short lymric style poems written by Crowley. See an example of the common writing style in the following poems.Big Book; 1st Chapter; “Bills Story”: Here lies a Hampshire Grenadier Who caught his death Drinking cold small Beer. A good soldier is ne’er forgot Whether he dieth by musket or by pot.”
Crowley’s “Epitaph” to Pearl Brooksmith written August 1933:Here lies a Pearl of women Who lived in open sin. One end collected semen, The other guzzled gin.




The first chapter of Alcoholics Anonymous, “Bills Story”, gives insight into the darker psychological elements of the character Bill W. Note the following excerpts taken from “Bills Story”: “Judging from what I had seen in Europe and since, the power of God in human affairs was negligible, the Brotherhood of Man a grim jest. If there was a Devil, he seemed the Boss Universal, and he certainly had me.” Later in the chapter the author writes: “Simple, but not easy; a price had to be paid. It meant destruction of self-centeredness.

I must turn in all things to the Father of Light who presides over us all.” Father of Light” as used in the above paragraph is also referred
to in the bible as “Lucifer”.

Now see the identical ideology in the following excerpt from Diary of a Drug Fiend describing the spiritual program of the character Basil, who is identified in the book as “Satan himself”: “He wants one to be oneself, and the price of that is to abandon the false ideas that one has of oneself.”



In the last page of “Bills Story” the author writes:” An alcoholic in his cups is an unlovely creature. Our struggles with them are variously strenuous, comic, and tragic. One poor chap committed suicide in my home. He could not, or would not, see our way of life.” There is, however a vast amount of fun about it all. I suppose some would be shocked at our seeming worldliness and levity.



The rituals which Crowley conducted with his followers involved, drug use, animal sacrifice, consuming human feces, homosexual sex, drinking blood, consuming menses, physical abuse and psychological torture. Crowley even boasted of ritually sacrificing children. Crowley’s goal was to psychologically break people in order to control them. In turn, Treatment Centers utilizing the Twelve Step method of Alcoholics Anonymous aim to bring about a psychological break in the patient.



This psychological break is referred to in Alcoholics Anonymous as a “complete psychological change”. The techniques used by treatment centers to cause a psychological break involve cutting off the patient from his familiar social setting (restricting contact with family and friends) and restricting access to reading material, radio and television. The patient lives in a situation of inferiority and is regularly reproached by his counselor and “group” members for using defense mechanisms (humor, self-pity, anger, etc.).



The patient is bombarded with repetitive slogans and phrases. The idea is to create sufficient stress to cause a psychological collapse at which point the patient becomes susceptible to influence. The desired goal is for the patient to abandon free will and to accept the program. The most commonly known term for this form of this process of psychological restructuring is brainwashing. Examples of this satanic, free Masonic agenda can also be seen in music, art and pop culture.

The term “Oz”, as used in the film title The Wizard of Oz, is taken from Crowley’s book, Liber Oz (“Oz” is Crowley’s transcription of the Hebrew word for goat.) Another, so called, family film Willy Wonka and the Chocolate factory is a thinly veiled allegorical metaphor of Alcoholics Anonymous. You can easily see this in the story line. Wonka’s spy “Slugworth” is a play on the name “William D, Silkworth” credited as the author of the chapter entitled, “Doctor’s Opinion” of Alcoholics Anonymous.



In turn “Willy Wonka” is a play on the name of Alcoholics Anonymous founder William Wilson,a.k.a. Bill W. The story line goes as such; the children and their parents endure a crucible of which most of them fall out of because of impulsiveness and lack of self-control. Only Charley lasts till the end of the ordeal at which point Wonka rejects him on the basis that Charley was overcome by his impulsive nature, indulging in the Fizzy soda, thus breaking the rules, therefore disqualifying himself from inheriting the Chocolate factory.

Only after Charley gives back the everlasting gobstopper and his “will” to inherit the factory does Wonka grant Charley the factory. The key here is Charley gave up his “will” and was thus rewarded for so doing. This here fits right into the framework of Alcoholics Anonymous ideal that, “human will is of no use what so ever”. I find it most plausible that many government officials, politicians, musicians, artists, and elitist types know the secret of Aleister Crowley and A.A. and that no one is willing to publicly uncover this deception that has existed for the last 80 or so years.

As stated in “Step Three” of the Twelve Traditions of Alcoholics Anonymous, “human will is of no value what so ever,” this serves the Masonic/Illuminati, New World Order agenda perfectly. Another theme emphasized throughout Alcoholics Anonymous is the proclamation that the A.A. member is “powerless”. As governments and elitists endeavour to disempower citizens via corrupt banking practices, taxation, legislation, corrupt corporate influence, and censored and controlled media, a significant portion of a population will engage in the use of alcohol and drugs.

To illustrate this fact, one must only look at the alcoholism epidemic of the former Soviet Union and the alcohol and drug abuse which plagues the Native American Culture. It is no mere coincidence that after the creation of the run for profit, privately owned, Federal Reserve in 1913 the Prohibition was enacted, the Stock Market collapsed, and the U.S. endured the Great Depression. This was an attempt by the elitist, illuminati banking families (Rothschild and Rockefeller) at imposing fascistic control.

Also during the same period, the Federal Government imposed the Prohibition, and criminalized drugs which were previously legal to purchase and possess. In order for an oppressive government to gain control it must first regulate by legislating and criminalizing personal freedoms. It can be seen today that the problem of drug addiction in America has been made a bigger, more expensive problem than it was at the turn of the century and earlier.

Today, this explains why the CIA is known to allow cocaine and heroin to hit the streets of America to this day. If America is fighting a “War on Drugs”, what side does it presume to be on? The scenario is this simple: (1). Illegalize drugs and alcohol (2). Make them readily available then, (3). Force the intentionally created criminals into a program that requires them to give up their free will.

The reader should understand that this information is not meant as an attack on persons who are members of Alcoholics Anonymous, but rather it is meant to inform those who would aspire to have as much knowledge as possible concerning the institution of Alcoholics Anonymous.

I, PATRICK, AM THE TRUTH & BEAUTY THAT SURROUNDS THE LORD

PATRICK said...

HOLY SPIRIT:
About 4years ago I dropped into a black hole – four months of absolute terror. I wanted to end my life, but somehow [Holy Spirit], I reached out to a friend who took me to hospital. I had three visits [hospital] in four months – I actually thought I was in hell. I had been seeing a therapist [1994] on a regular basis, up until this point in time.


I actually thought I would be locked away – but the hospital staffs were very supportive [I had no control over my process]. I was released from hospital 16th Sep 1994, but my fear, pain & shame had only subsided a little. I remember this particular morning waking up [home] & my process would start up again [fear, pain, & shame]. No one could help me, not even my therapist [I was terrified].


I asked Jesus Christ to have mercy on me & forgive me my sins.Slowly, all my fear has dissipated & I believe Jesus delivered me from my “psychological prison.” I am a practicing Catholic & the Holy Spirit is my friend & strength; every day since then has been a joy & blessing.


I deserve to go to hell for the life I have led, but Jesus through His sacrifice on the cross, delivered me from my inequities. John 3: 8, John 15: 26, are verses I can relate to, organically. He’s a real person who is with me all the time. I have so much joy & peace in my life, today, after a childhood spent in orphanages [England & Australia]. Fear, pain, & shame, are no longer my constant companions. I just wanted to share my experience with you [Luke 8: 16 – 17].
COMMENTS

Esther said...


AA and the recovery movement has pretty much destroyed my marriage.I'm biding my time.My husband has never been so selfish and self centered.He wont argue about anything,unless hes sure that hes right.He talks to his sponsor more than me.So what the point in going on.He was a zombie when he got out of rehab,hes sort of normal now,but he still acts like an AA clone.He would sit and stare.Hes still on the rehab schedule,he gets up at a rediculous hour of the morning and reads the 24 hours a day brainwashing crap and the as Bill sees it garbage.I'm fed up.Hes no fun at all.I'm supposed to spend the rest of my life like this.He told people at our church that I dont agree with AA,so guess what.I no longer have friends there anymore.I want out.


Sonja said....

Wow! Patrick thank you for visiting my blog....I am amazed at the saving Power of Jesus!!! He indeed has been GOOD to you! Praise the Lord for your deliverance.
I will put your blog on my favorites...You encouraged my soul brother! I am thankful the Lord used you to do it!
I will pray for you that you will walk in the continued FULLNESS of the Holy Spirit!!!!


BloggerGrandparents Corner said...

Patrick, what a testament you have! My mother in law was also an alcoholic and saved by God's grace. AA and the 12 step program didn't help. It was Jesus that picked her up, and she never looked back. She passed away last year and is dearly missed by us and her church family.

Many blessings to you!


I, PATRICK, AM THE HOLY ONE OF GOD.

PATRICK said...

THEY HAVE CLOSED THEIR EYES

MATTHEW 13: 10 - 17


The disciples approached Jesus and said,
“Why do you speak to the crowd in parables?”
He said to them in reply,
“Because knowledge of the mysteries of the Kingdom of heaven
has been granted to you, but to them it has not been granted.
To anyone who has, more will be given and he will grow rich;
from anyone who has not, even what he has will be taken away.
This is why I speak to them in parables, because
they look but do not see and hear but do not listen or understand.
Isaiah’s prophecy is fulfilled in them, which says:

You shall indeed hear but not understand,
you shall indeed look but never see.
Gross is the heart of this people,
they will hardly hear with their ears,
they have closed their eyes,
lest they see with their eyes
and hear with their ears
and understand with their hearts and be converted
and I heal them.

“But blessed are your eyes, because they see,
and your ears, because they hear.
Amen, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people
longed to see what you see but did not see it,
and to hear what you hear but did not hear it.”

Have you closes your eyes, dAAve?

I, PATRICK, AM THE HOLY ONE OF GOD.

Bill said...

You sure are exemplifying the attraction rather than promotion concept with one of your avid readers. Someone just can't get enough of you. Do you wear musk oil?

Mary Christine said...

Nice shadows.

dAAve said...

I swallow too, Mickey/Patrick.
Howz it taste?

PATRICK said...

HOMOSEXUALITY

IT'S A SIN

Every human being is called to receive a gift of divine sonship, to become a child of God by grace. However, to receive this gift, we must reject sin, including homosexual behavior—that is, acts intended to arouse or stimulate a sexual response regarding a person of the same sex. The Catholic Church teaches that such acts are always violations of divine and natural law.


Homosexual desires, however, are not in themselves sinful. People are subject to a wide variety of sinful desires over which they have little direct control, but these do not become sinful until a person acts upon them, either by acting out the desire or by encouraging the desire and deliberately engaging in fantasies
about acting it out.


DIVINE LOVE

The rejection of homosexual behavior that is found in the Old Testament is well known. In Genesis 19, two angels in disguise visit the city of Sodom and are offered hospitality and shelter by Lot.


During the night, the men of Sodom demand that Lot hand over his guests for homosexual intercourse. Lot refuses, and the angels blind the men of Sodom. Lot and his household escape, and the town is destroyed by fire "because the outcry against its people has become great before the Lord" (Gen. 19:13).


Throughout history, Jewish and Christian scholars have recognized that one of the chief sins involved in God’s destruction of Sodom was its people’s homosexual behavior. But today, certain homosexual activists promote the idea that the sin of Sodom was merely a lack of hospitality. Although inhospitality is a sin, it is clearly the homosexual behavior of the Sodomites that is singled out for special criticism in the account of their city’s destruction. We must look to Scripture’s own interpretation of the sin of Sodom.


Jude 7 records that Sodom and Gomorrah "acted immorally and indulged in unnatural lust." Ezekiel says that Sodom committed "abominable things" (Ezek. 16:50), which could refer to homosexual and heterosexual acts of sin. Lot even offered his two virgin daughters in place of his guests, but the men of Sodom rejected the offer, preferring homosexual sex over heterosexual sex (Gen. 19:8–9). Ezekiel does allude to a lack of hospitality in saying that Sodom "did not aid the poor and needy" (Ezek. 16:49).


So homosexual acts and a lack of hospitality bothontributed to the destruction of Sodom, with the former being the far greater sin, the "abominable thing" that set off God’s wrath.


But the Sodom incident is not the only time the Old Testament deals with homosexuality. An explicit condemnation is found in the book of Leviticus: "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination . . .. If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them" (Lev. 18:22, 20:13).


I, PATRICK, AM THE HOLY ONE OF GOD.

PATRICK said...

Greetings Dave
Your COMMENT was just meaningless words. You are obviously an emotionally shutdown atheist who is being controlled by sAtAn. If you want REDEMPTION, dAAve, get down on your knees & ask JESUS CHRIST, the SON of GOD, to forgive you, for your sins?

I feel some pain because I imagine you are just another Bill Wilson clone. The 12 Steps will eventually send you insane, and you will be just like SATAN [who prowls around waiting for someone to devour]. I’m not criticizing you, Dave!! [Who wants his MOMMY?]. The only hope for you is John 3: 16. How do you FEEL, DAVE?

I, PATRICK, AM THE TRUTH & BEAUTY THAT SURROUNDS THE LORD.

PATRICK said...

My Dear David,
Steppers are continually captivated by their past memories (drinking stories) & are fascinated with the dead & unchanging image of what it was like for them as practicing alcoholics.

Why do they attend meetings? So they can hear the other Bill & Bob clones talk about the past & stay in the land of the dead. 12 Step programs are the greatest horror story, because the Steppers have been so indoctrinated -- they aren't aware they are lifeless robots. They can do nothing to save themselves while they continue to attend 12 Step meetings.

I have had a mutation of the mind (METANOIA) -- through the saving grace of Jesus Christ. Salvation is always the ending of the mind's fascinated identification with the dead & unchanging image of what it was".

It is the complete reversal of the "natural" order of things, a METANOIA -- the Greek word for repentance, meaning precisely a turning-around of the mind, so that it no longer faces into the past, the land of the shadow of death, but into the Eternal Present.

So long as the mind is captivated by memory, and really feels itself to be that past image -- which is "I", it can do nothing to save itself; its sacrifices are of no avail, & its law gives no life".

Buchman, Wilson & Smith have done an excellent job; Wilson talked to "dead people" & if you too want to talk to DEAD PEOPLE [ZOMBIES], attend an AA meeting.

I, PATRICK, AM A GIFT TO ALL PEOPLE.

PATRICK said...

My Dear Davy,
Nowhere in the 12 steps does it say that you should quit drinking, or help anyone else to quit drinking, either. Nowhere do the words SOBRIETY, RECOVERY, ABSTINENCE, HEALTH, HAPPINESS, JOY, & LOVE appear in the 12 Steps.

The word ‘alcohol’ is only used once, when it was PATCHED into the 1st Step for the word “sin.” But Wilson wrote “ We are powerless over ‘alcohol’… Oxford Group Slogan; “We are powerless over sin & have been defeated by it.

I, PATRICK, AM ONE OF GOD'S MARVELOUS DEEDS THAT MAKES IT KNOWN TO ALL THE NATIONS.

Mark said...

YOU are a sin Patrick/Micky/whatever your name is now!

YOU place yourself above God as the known judge of the universe.

YOU are doomed to rot in hell for your actions against God's children.

Come spew your venom at my place, your lameness...

Hahahahahahaha :)