that it's been a long time since I needed to lie about what I did yesterday
that recovery the AA way offers me the opportunity to live a life that may help others and not just myself
that my head cold seems to have gotten better overnight while I had a good night's sleep
CLICK HEREfor the latest case of insanity in the courts
Maturity is the ability to do a job whether or not you are supervised, to carry money without spending it, and to bear an injustice without wanting to get even. -Ann Landers
Talk about ridiculous! Like Steve was going to hurt someone riding his lawn mower and had to be subdued immediately! We are living in a freaking police state.
ooooh....the lies I could and did tell. Oh yes, I sure don't miss all the drama that was my former life. BUT it is definately a good thing to be reminded of how it (I) was.
This was hilarious reading along with the comments, knowing Steve E. was reading. I think it falls under Stupid should hurt and it did repeatedly when we drank. (Hugs)Indigo
That is so saaaaaaaaaad! Glad you feel better. Now I guess the next thing to come out of one of the stupid courts is for someone to be cleared of drunken manslaughter is that the victim should have been able to stay out of the way of the drunk driver. Lordy, Lordy. I feel a need for a Soap BOX!
THE SPIRIT-BEINGS of ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS Posted on August 29, 2008 by mywordlikefire Don’t tell me those demons are not there. We just can’t see them. The Bible says, “For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.” (Ephesians 6:12)
Alcoholics Anonymous has been a haven for darkness since its inception. So many Christians see A.A. as a friend, as a wonderful spiritual organization. But the Word is very clear.
According to Galatians 1:6-8, “I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who has called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel; which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed.“
But Paul wasn’t finished making his point. He continues, “As we have said before, so I say to you again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you have received, let him be accursed.” (Galatians1:9)
I often think of pastors who allow A.A. meetings in their churches, who preach Christ crucified yet by their acceptance of A.A. contradict their own stated beliefs.
This is happening in a neighbouring church in the community where I worship, and the pastor ignores the Bible and allows the meetings to continue. How can he not understand the ramifications of his decision?
Christians in AA shake their heads and point out that A.A. is just a simple “spiritual program.” Is that so? Or, is Alcoholics Anonymous another gospel? A.A. has been ruled a religion by the U.S. Supreme Court.
In Alcoholics Anonymous, “god” can be whatever a person decides “god” will be.
Because of this, Christ our King is considered just one of many higher powers, and not all that a desirable one at that. Consider the words of Jack Alexander of the Saturday Evening Post.
In his article that gained A.A. national publicity in 1941 he accurately describes A.A.’s teaching. Alexander notes the alcoholic “may choose to think of his Inner Self, the miracle of growth, a tree, man’s wonderment at the atom, or mere mathematical infinity. Whatever form is visualized, the neophyte is taught that he must rely on it and, in his own way, to pray to the Power for strength.”
“I am the Lord, that is my name. I will not give my glory to another, not my praise to idols.” (Isaiah 42:8)
Christians in A.A. are in direct disobedience to the Word of God. A.A. itself has become an idol, and they will not leave.
Indeed, they are afraid to. Many years ago New Age publisher Ehud Sperling, quoted in Publisher’s Weekly, called A.A. “a sub trend of the New Age.” Alcoholics Anonymous is not a subset of the New Age, but an integral component.
Things are happening rapidly. Emergent, Contemplative, and 12 Step Spirituality will continue seep and blend into one another. When God’s people no longer rely on His Word, we end up with spiritual rebellion and deception.
The demons in A.A. whisper away, into the ears of believers and non-believers alike.
They laugh with glee when a Christian credits the 12 Steps rather than the Lord; they howl with triumph when another hurting alcoholic is pointed away from Christ. By now they expect Christians to defend A.A. Many do just this.
There are no missionaries in A.A. There are few Christians testifying that Jesus is the only way to salvation. There are the demons, doing what darkness does, and doing it very well.
12 Step recovery programs are a slow slide into the jaws of Satan. I was involved with the evil “satanic cult” [AA] for over 30 years but was saved through the POWER of JESUS CHRIST.
He directed me to a counsellor who was into “real” recovery, not the mind destroying, soul destroying, cult, which is AA. I have met two Steppers recently & I imagine they are completely devoid of any emotion or insight.
I feel pain because both these men are decent human beings but AA has destroyed their "brain structure" & they have no idea how to relate apart from expounding AA propaganda.
I imagine Hell to be a continuous flow of AA meetings without any light at the end of the tunnel because one is never REDEEMED.
How is one REDEEMED, when one is handing one’s power over to AA. The 12 Steps were written out of Wilson’s head, he certainly didn’t get his guidance from the Bible.
I imagine he was an agent of SATAN & he & Smith’s “cult religion” has filled millions of Steppers with their ANTI-CHRIST propaganda.
Step Three of AA is "Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood him."
While many in the Oxford Group placed their faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour, there was much leeway given.
Shoemaker, a leader of the Oxford Group, says, "The true meaning of faith is self-surrender to God."
He further explains: Surrender to whatever you know about Him, or believe must be the truth about Him. Surrender to Him, if necessary, in total ignorance of Him.
Far more important that you touch Him than that you understand Him at first. Put yourself in His hands. Whatever He is, as William James said, He is more ideal than we are. Make the leap. Give yourself to Him.
Aside from capitalizing the "H," which Christians do to refer to the God of the Bible, "Him" could refer to any god of one’s own making - BEDPAN!
Romans 1: 19Because that which is known of God is manifest in them. For God hath manifested it unto them.
20For the invisible things of him, from the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made; his eternal power also, and divinity: so that they are inexcusable.
BILL:] Hey, hey BOB, I had a SPIRITUAL AWAKENING Hey, hey BOB, my higher power, will always do I've waited so long for BOOZE to be through BOB, I can't wait to meet you My love, my love
[BOB:] Hey BILL, I've had a BRAINSTORM too Hey, hey, hey BILL, I want to meet you too If your PROGRAM is true, if you love AA, BILL! The BIG BOOK will always be real My love, my love
[BILL&BOB:] AA means planning a life for two Being together the whole day through True SOBRIETY means waiting and hoping that soon SATANISM will come true My love, my love
One Sober Alcohlic said... I wasn't going to say this here, but I am just cranky enough this morning to say it... I think, for the first time in my experience in AA, that we are falling apart. We don't know what our message is, and if we do, we are too lazy to carry it.
We are sitting around like baby birds, with our mouths open, waiting for someone to come along and feed us, and we never worry about spreading our wings and doing some work to get some food for our fellows and our babies. We all want to be babies all the time. It doesn't work.
You are of your father, the the devil, , and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and doesn't stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks on his own; for he is a liar, and its father. (John 8: 44)
SOUND OF SOBRIETY Hello darkness, my old friend, I’ve come to talk crap again, An AA meeting softly creeping, Left its seeds while I was sleeping, And the 12 Steps that were planted in my brain Still remains Within the sound of sobriety.
In restless meetings I walked alone Bill Wilson Clones, made of stone Neath the halo of an OLD TIMER, I turned my collar to the 1st and 3rd Step When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of A SPIRITUAL AWAKENING That split the night And touched the sound of sobriety.
And in the naked light I saw Ten thousand 12 STEPPERS, maybe more. STEPPERS reading the BIG BOOK, STEPPERS hearing without listening, STEPPERS writing their 4th STEP and no one dared Disturb the sound of sobriety.
Zombies said I, you do not know Sobriety like a cancer grows. Hear my words that I might BRAINWASH you, Take my arms that I might 13th STEP you. But my words like the higher power fell, and echoed in the halls of sobriety
And the 12 STEPPERS ranted and raved To the AA god they made. And the sign flashed out its warning, in the words that it was forming. And the sign said, KEEP COMING BACK IT WORKS IF YOU WORK IT! and the 12 STEP ZOMBIES, Whispered in the sounds of sobriety.
21 comments:
Whew, that video makes me glad that I don't go to the same Oyster Shack as that guy. And that I'm not drunk riding a lawnmower.
dAAve, you've obviously got lots to be grateful for, including Maturity!
Oyster Shack sounds like a fun place if people just ride up on lawn mowers. Let's go there for lunch K?
Oh....and Steve knows his rights!
"I think I crapped my pants!"
Freaking hysterical!
Talk about ridiculous! Like Steve was going to hurt someone riding his lawn mower and had to be subdued immediately! We are living in a freaking police state.
Steve will soon be calling 1-800-lawyer.
very funny. i think steve is my cousin.
Folks, I'm STEVE, and ah know mah rights...at least let me change muh trousers! (Heyy, now ah'm a moovie star!!
Steve E.
Sleep is the best medicine when feeling a cold or flu..glad you feeling a bit better today Dave ;)
xo
ooooh....the lies I could and did tell. Oh yes, I sure don't miss all the drama that was my former life. BUT it is definately a good thing to be reminded of how it (I) was.
Steve says he knows his rights, but I don't think he really does.
This was hilarious reading along with the comments, knowing Steve E. was reading. I think it falls under Stupid should hurt and it did repeatedly when we drank. (Hugs)Indigo
That is so saaaaaaaaaad! Glad you feel better. Now I guess the next thing to come out of one of the stupid courts is for someone to be cleared of drunken manslaughter is that the victim should have been able to stay out of the way of the drunk driver. Lordy, Lordy. I feel a need for a Soap BOX!
THE SPIRIT-BEINGS of ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS
Posted on August 29, 2008 by mywordlikefire
Don’t tell me those demons are not there. We just can’t see them. The Bible says, “For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.” (Ephesians 6:12)
Alcoholics Anonymous has been a haven for darkness since its inception. So many Christians see A.A. as a friend, as a wonderful spiritual organization. But the Word is very clear.
According to Galatians 1:6-8, “I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who has called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel; which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed.“
But Paul wasn’t finished making his point. He continues, “As we have said before, so I say to you again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you have received, let him be accursed.” (Galatians1:9)
I often think of pastors who allow A.A. meetings in their churches, who preach Christ crucified yet by their acceptance of A.A. contradict their own stated beliefs.
This is happening in a neighbouring church in the community where I worship, and the pastor ignores the Bible and allows the meetings to continue. How can he not understand the ramifications of his decision?
Christians in AA shake their heads and point out that A.A. is just a simple “spiritual program.” Is that so? Or, is Alcoholics Anonymous another gospel? A.A. has been ruled a religion by the U.S. Supreme Court.
In Alcoholics Anonymous, “god” can be whatever a person decides “god” will be.
Because of this, Christ our King is considered just one of many higher powers, and not all that a desirable one at that. Consider the words of Jack Alexander of the Saturday Evening Post.
In his article that gained A.A. national publicity in 1941 he accurately describes A.A.’s teaching. Alexander notes the alcoholic “may choose to think of his Inner Self, the miracle of growth, a tree, man’s wonderment at the atom, or mere mathematical infinity. Whatever form is visualized, the neophyte is taught that he must rely on it and, in his own way, to pray to the Power for strength.”
“I am the Lord, that is my name. I will not give my glory to another, not my praise to idols.” (Isaiah 42:8)
Christians in A.A. are in direct disobedience to the Word of God. A.A. itself has become an idol, and they will not leave.
Indeed, they are afraid to. Many years ago New Age publisher Ehud Sperling, quoted in Publisher’s Weekly, called A.A. “a sub trend of the New Age.” Alcoholics Anonymous is not a subset of the New Age, but an integral component.
Things are happening rapidly. Emergent, Contemplative, and 12 Step Spirituality will continue seep and blend into one another. When God’s people no longer rely on His Word, we end up with spiritual rebellion and deception.
The demons in A.A. whisper away, into the ears of believers and non-believers alike.
They laugh with glee when a Christian credits the 12 Steps rather than the Lord; they howl with triumph when another hurting alcoholic is pointed away from Christ. By now they expect Christians to defend A.A. Many do just this.
There are no missionaries in A.A. There are few Christians testifying that Jesus is the only way to salvation. There are the demons, doing what darkness does, and doing it very well.
THE 12 STEPS DOWN TO HELL
12 Step recovery programs are a slow slide into the jaws of Satan. I was involved with the evil “satanic cult” [AA] for over 30 years but was saved through the POWER of JESUS CHRIST.
He directed me to a counsellor who was into “real” recovery, not the mind destroying, soul destroying, cult, which is AA. I have met two Steppers recently & I imagine they are completely devoid of any emotion or insight.
I feel pain because both these men are decent human beings but AA has destroyed their "brain structure" & they have no idea how to relate apart from expounding AA propaganda.
I imagine Hell to be a continuous flow of AA meetings without any light at the end of the tunnel because one is never REDEEMED.
How is one REDEEMED, when one is handing one’s power over to AA. The 12 Steps were written out of Wilson’s head, he certainly didn’t get his guidance from the Bible.
I imagine he was an agent of SATAN & he & Smith’s “cult religion” has filled millions of Steppers with their ANTI-CHRIST propaganda.
Step Three of AA is "Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood him."
While many in the Oxford Group placed their faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour, there was much leeway given.
Shoemaker, a leader of the Oxford Group, says, "The true meaning of faith is self-surrender to God."
He further explains:
Surrender to whatever you know about Him, or believe must be the truth about Him. Surrender to Him, if necessary, in total ignorance of Him.
Far more important that you touch Him than that you understand Him at first. Put yourself in His hands. Whatever He is, as William James said, He is more ideal than we are. Make the leap. Give yourself to Him.
Aside from capitalizing the "H," which Christians do to refer to the God of the Bible, "Him" could refer to any god of one’s own making - BEDPAN!
Just for today I will be agreeable.
You must read this, dAAve!
Romans 1: 19 Because that which is known of God is manifest in them. For God hath manifested it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him, from the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made; his eternal power also, and divinity: so that they are inexcusable.
What is your excuse, dAAve?
"Hey Bob"
BILL:]
Hey, hey BOB, I had a SPIRITUAL AWAKENING
Hey, hey BOB, my higher power, will always do
I've waited so long for BOOZE to be through
BOB, I can't wait to meet you
My love, my love
[BOB:]
Hey BILL, I've had a BRAINSTORM too
Hey, hey, hey BILL, I want to meet you too
If your PROGRAM is true, if you love AA, BILL!
The BIG BOOK will always be real
My love, my love
[BILL&BOB:]
AA means planning a life for two
Being together the whole day through
True SOBRIETY means waiting and hoping that soon
SATANISM will come true
My love, my love
One Sober Alcohlic said...
I wasn't going to say this here, but I am just cranky enough this morning to say it... I think, for the first time in my experience in AA, that we are falling apart. We don't know what our message is, and if we do, we are too lazy to carry it.
We are sitting around like baby birds, with our mouths open, waiting for someone to come along and feed us, and we never worry about spreading our wings and doing some work to get some food for our fellows and our babies. We all want to be babies all the time. It doesn't work.
You are of your father, the the devil, , and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and doesn't stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks on his own; for he is a liar, and its father. (John 8: 44)
Repent, ary Christine, or enter here!
SOUND OF SOBRIETY
Hello darkness, my old friend,
I’ve come to talk crap again,
An AA meeting softly creeping,
Left its seeds while I was sleeping,
And the 12 Steps that were planted in my brain
Still remains
Within the sound of sobriety.
In restless meetings I walked alone
Bill Wilson Clones, made of stone
Neath the halo of an OLD TIMER,
I turned my collar to the 1st and 3rd Step
When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of
A SPIRITUAL AWAKENING
That split the night
And touched the sound of sobriety.
And in the naked light I saw
Ten thousand 12 STEPPERS, maybe more.
STEPPERS reading the BIG BOOK,
STEPPERS hearing without listening,
STEPPERS writing their 4th STEP
and no one dared
Disturb the sound of sobriety.
Zombies said I, you do not know
Sobriety like a cancer grows.
Hear my words that I might BRAINWASH you,
Take my arms that I might 13th STEP you.
But my words like the higher power fell,
and echoed
in the halls of sobriety
And the 12 STEPPERS ranted and raved
To the AA god they made.
And the sign flashed out its warning,
in the words that it was forming.
And the sign said, KEEP COMING BACK
IT WORKS IF YOU WORK IT!
and the 12 STEP ZOMBIES,
Whispered in the sounds of sobriety.
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